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PostSubject: Global Conditions    Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:38 pm

I was watching a series of videos put out by a local Church on youtube about the end of the world stuffs. What a rich field of discussion that is. If you remember my topic back in May about the one date this one oldie came up with then you may be interested in a wall of text. The following basically applies to our entire world and future and to not be interested is just not normal. Don't let the wall of text fool you, we can fit a lot of posts in this with great discussion.

So yes, I was watching videos put out by a church on youtube. It mainly bases things off the Bible obviously. Wether you believe in it or not it can still apply to the world around you here. It was going on for about 30 or so minutes on how the world is nearing the end. End. Meaning (age) in that particular scripture.

It says near the end times will be very un parallel in all of history. Meaning that those times will be the worst in history. The video told me to look around. In the past 200 years the world has exploded with both great and terrible things. In the last 100 years we have seen two world wars and a nuke holocaust. In the past ten 10 years we have seen a huge rise of unrest and war in the middle east.

New sicknesses killing thousands each day, government corruption, greed, fighting, economic turmoil, hate , ignorance of every kind, religious confusion, poverty, hunger, natural disasters on the rise, mass murder, and war.

Any thinking person can tell that we are in some serious trouble. Its all happened before and it may always happen but right now its getting really bad. Or at least its setting itself up for a troublesome time.


What do you think of the worlds current state?

Where do you think its going?

What are the problems that concern you the most with the world as a whole.



Please leave intelligent responses or none at all.

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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:00 pm

There are have been alot of discussions like on the internet, many I have seen on YouTube. I do think of this situation we have alot, but since I am a human I am lazy and ignorant sometimes, I forget to care. These thoughts frightens me though. I want to become a movie score composer when I grow up, I truly do. But since the current condition of the planet, I do not know how the future will be i 10-20 years. Maybe nuclear war have destroyed our civilization, maybe a spreading desease is exterminating us, etc. Thus, I am afraid I will never get to see my future. But it doesn't seem like it's hope that is pushing me to think everything will be alright, I just forget to care, as I said before.

Yes, I am afraid of how the future, and I do want to make things better but since I am like most of the animals on this planet, I do what I need to survive, in this case, Live. I am in need of what I already have, a drug I cannot go away from. I cannot leave that too save our world. I am afraid I will die, starve, live in the forest and be maybe even be eaten by bears or something like that. Mostly I am afraid of to lose what I have right no though.

Another reason is that I do not have the money, or the power to change that much. Sure, I can always donate some money once a month to poor children in Africa, but It doesn't help as much as needed. Sure (again), it does help some, but the process is too long, many people gets poor all the time and many will die on the way before they get their money. People are also very greedy, especially the ones who needs the money for theirselfs. And let's not forget the rich people! Though I do not blame the people who can't give away money because they need it. We all must care about ourselfs and survive,
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:49 pm

War. War never changes.
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:12 pm

Interesting posts, and I see where you're coming from. Happy. My just-woken-up-after-playing-Minecraft-at-an-ungodly-hour responses are as follows.

When I think about the state of the world today, and the hardship that millions face, I cannot help but compare it to the past -- have things, as a whole, improved in the last century? The last decade? I think, on most fronts, it has. The impression to the contrary certainly isn't an uncommon or illogical one, but it is something that can partly be explained by the media: this last century has seen incredible leaps forward in communication technology, and the result of this is that we not only have access to but are regularly informed of events in the wider world. Of course, the troubling ones are the ones that sell, so when I turn on the 10 o'clock news, I can count on the picture it paints of world events to be a bleak one, almost to the point of ridiculousness.

What I'm getting at here is that drought, poverty, civil war, despotism and genocide all existed in the past as they do today -- we just didn't hear about them or we, in the present, dismiss it as 'history' and it affects us no further. This brings me to another point: increased awareness. More charitable organisations exist now than ever have before -- first-world society has never been more ready to aid those in need, because people know what is happening and, like yourselves, they worry that they aren't doing enough. This goes for every single kind of issue: medical, sociological, environmental (and how!), you name it, there are people out there co-ordinating efforts to fix the worlds problems, and many more who are donating to them. Yes, more can be done, and would need to be done to fix the world's major problems, but the effort we are making is incalculably greater than it has ever been at any point in the past; near or far.

Suffering will always exist in the world -- that, I believe, is just the way humanity is -- but we can make an effort to combat specific issues -- as both individuals and as a race. We can cut off the hydra's heads, and whilst others will surely grow they will be in other places, in other times, and we can give a little respite to the people who suffered.

The conclusion I've reached writing this is that the feelings of guilt we feel when we think of these matters, the anxiety about the future and the world today, are forces that can be harnessed for the benefit of mankind -- give to charity, even a little; volunteer, go on a gap year to a third-world country, speak up on issues that others have brushed aside -- but take comfort in the fact that this is not the end of the world. This is the beginning.

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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:01 pm

Humanity has always been this ignorant, brutal, and corrupt. There has probably never been a single moment in our civilized history when we all co-existed. But when the generations of that time die, we forget the experiences they endured. However, with the spread of Nuclear power and weaponry, wide-spread militarism, and ways of getting news from all over the world, it just seems worse since we're aware how bad it really is.

America is teetering on the edge of a complete economic collapse, we are coming back, but if China ever demands their money back, our economy will go to hell.

The middle east has always been a battlefield, since pretty much every country in that area has a deep hatred for one another. And no intervention from outside powers is going to help that.

And humanity has been even MORE brutal in war before Nuclear missiles were developed.

No matter what we do, new diseases will always arise. There is no way we can cure mankind of all sickness, since new ones constantly pop up and mutate.

My point is, the world has never been truly calm, governments always stay corrupt, and people will stay brutal as long as they have power over others. Even with the increased awareness of these events that our generation possesses, we have little in the ways of stopping the issues. Even with charities, and groups dedicated to helping those caught in recent disasters.

Simply put, it's always been this way, and it will probably never change.

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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:26 pm

I read about the riots in London. At least 400 people arrested. They are burning houses and looting shops. What the hell is going on with the world?
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:47 pm

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD?!

Okay, in all seriousness, War is kinda stupid, we're all human beings with feelings and emotions no matter what race we are and stuff. And people are still rude enough to insult, harass and treat furries like dirt, that's something I don't understand.

Human's stubbornness and carelessness is mainly what's causing earth's problems, mainly because they don't think ahead. I greatly hate the holocaust and how heartless people still are about it.
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:13 am

War and death and torture and destruction. The state of a lot of the world right now. :P

It sucks, and yet some of us, even the American president, are stupid enough to be okay with it. Even if Obama won't admit it, he IS still keeping the war.


It really does suck. We'd be happier if the wars stopped, people were treated better, and if America wasn't so greedy. It's one of the things that makes me a bit disappointed in where I live. But I encourage peace and focusing on the future of the world, making it all better, not worse. ONE of the many reasons I love science, school, math, etc. It's much better than violence and it helps building a better tomorrow.

So yeah, I admit we live in a messed up world and that I live in a partially stupid country (No offense to the good Americans out there)
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:30 am

Lazernugget wrote:
War and death and torture and destruction. The state of a lot of the world right now. :P
Agreed, I'm not sure if Japan is having wars right now, but it seems to be more understanding than the U.S

It really does suck. We'd be happier if the wars stopped, people were treated better, and if America wasn't so greedy.

Totally agree, people won't even accept other people's hobbies, someone's mother wanted a restraining order from their son/daughter because they of their harmless hobby. *Facepalm* It's not like they're a serial killer!

So yeah, I admit we live in a messed up world and that I live in a partially stupid country (No offense to the good Americans out there)

Agreed.

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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:23 am

I think the end of the world is something we should prepare ourselves for, but we shouldn't fear it. Quite honestly, I doubt we are going to see the world end for a very long time. Things are looking bleak, but when looking back at history, so many previous times have been MUCH worse. Take the Black Plague in Europe for one thing. Never before or after was such a terrible slaughter been seen, the only thing coming close would be the Holocaust. Humankind has cleaned up their act enough that things are much better now than before.
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:29 am

Lazernugget wrote:


It sucks, and yet some of us, even the American president, are stupid enough to be okay with it. Even if Obama won't admit it, he IS still keeping the war.


Do you think that an American leader, who is trying to fix our economic problems, wants to spend more money on it? He may be in charge but its not that easy to just screw it and get on with daily lives. Keeping it going was the exact opposite of his goal. Frankly I don't think he can do it right now. The situation is not under control enough to end it for good.


Lazernugget wrote:
It really does suck. We'd be happier if the wars stopped, people were treated better, and if America wasn't so greedy.


America are not the only greedy ones. Its everyone. The news portrays it very differently then what it actually is. Greed is human nature, or is at least it is devilish thoughts that come into everyone on this planets minds. Some people control it better then others.


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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:22 am

Lazernugget wrote:
It really does suck. We'd be happier if the wars stopped, people were treated better, and if America wasn't so greedy.


Y'see, the interesting thing about this post is the timing. I was JUST reading a book for English about something very similar to this. It's called "Animal Farm".

off topic time oh god

The entire story is revolved around the Russian Revelution, when Nicolas Tsar II was kicked off the throne for poorly treating the lower class. Afterwards, said lower class form a new regime of government known as "Communisum", where everyone is treated as equally as their new higher-class leaders.
Guess where that got them?
(Hint: the new leaders became corrupt with power and everything is the same, if worse than before)

okay okay back on topic

Greed is human nature. there is no such thing as everyone being treated equally in a society. That's just how it is.
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:46 am

I think that what is happening to the world at this moment is a massive upset of Power. The power is being shifted from West to East. It has happenend many times in history, The ancient scholarly Easterners, who were far advanced than their feral Western counterparts. Then These westerners went on crusades, and begun to discover these eastern technologies, and began to use and build on them, which has led up to where we are now.

The western economic and industrial and political and intellectual power is being shifted to the East, especially India and China, where they have Manpower and strong governments (mainly China). So in Conclusion Americas becoming the new Africa. YAY!! not that it concerns me, I live in Britain, and India are part of our Commonwealth, so we'll be alright :P
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:36 pm

My grandpa told me before he died, watch out for those damn Chinese! I thought he was crazy but now I see what he meant.

China will be the new America if America can't get its act together. They could easily take us down economically but they cant really do that becuase all the super powers are connected economically. So instead they will be the inventors and providers of the world like America once was back during the industrial revolution.

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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:01 am

1st of all:
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Agreed, I'm not sure if Japan is having wars right now, but it seems to be more understanding than the U.S

Japan's military is controlled by the U.S.A, so they can't have wars of their own. All their fighting is through us.

2nd: War is NOT always bad. Exampel, the American Revoultionary War. Yes people died, but out of it came one of the gratest nations ever. Also, not all wars are caused by religion, only SOME wars are. Exampel of a religious enduced war, the crusades. Non-religious war, World War 1. And some wars are caused by stupid stuff, War of Jankin's Ear anyone?

3rd: Warfare is now changing from missels and explosions to hacking. Unfortunately, Cyber Warfare is becoming a new trend.

4th: You can't live your life in fear of what may or may not happen. Life moves on.
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:26 am

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1st of all:
FrostieBuniou wrote:
Agreed, I'm not sure if Japan is having wars right now, but it seems to be more understanding than the U.S

Japan's military is controlled by the U.S.A, so they can't have wars of their own. All their fighting is through us.

Okay, I have no knowledge whatsoever on the government.
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:59 pm

War is what drives us forwards, it reminds us how lucky we really we are through its terrors, it drives our technologies forwards, it roots out dictators etc. Only problem is the death side and all the moral implications.

War follows the basic principle of the universe, to have something, you must also have nothing. Ie to have life you must have death. War is the death in this instance, and gives humanity a new burst of life.

Also Cyberwar is still deadly serious, just because it utilises bits and bytes, makes it no less deadly. Think of all technology in modern day life, that has internet connection and uses bits and bytes. A hacker can theoretically hack this. He could instruct your computer to burn itself out, your TV to blow up, Industry to shut itself down. All using a keyboard and an internet connection. The age of nuclear holocaust being the most grievous threat to mankind is drawing to an end. ( not that i disagree with Darkstar, I think he is exactly right)
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:49 pm

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DarkStar wrote:
1st of all:
FrostieBuniou wrote:
Agreed, I'm not sure if Japan is having wars right now, but it seems to be more understanding than the U.S

Japan's military is controlled by the U.S.A, so they can't have wars of their own. All their fighting is through us.

Actually, Japan is a part of the United Nations, and it is the 5 superpowers of the UN (United States, England, China, Russia and I think Canada) that can decide on those matters and can veto a decision made by Japan, even if it isn't related to war. And besides, nothing is really preventing Japan from attacking some other country unless that country attacks first (Article 9 of the Constitution of Japan forbids the country from going to war unless in self-defense). If they ignore direct UN orders though, that's something very different, and I can't even imagine the punishments that the UN will give Japan if they start a war. The UN pretty much controls the whole world now.

Oh, and Drew, good point...

Watch out for those damned Chinese.
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PostSubject: International Insults   Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:41 pm

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Watch out for those damned Chinese.
You shouldn't be insulting other countries in a thread where anyone from pretty much any country could be reading. How would you feel if somebody said here, "Watch out for those damned [insert the name of your home country here]!"
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:50 pm

Mitchz95 wrote:
Terwynd wrote:
Watch out for those damned Chinese.
You shouldn't be insulting other countries in a thread where anyone from pretty much any country could be reading. How would you feel if somebody said here, "Watch out for those damned [insert the name of your home country here]!"

You shouldn't also read only one part of someones message, because if you DID read it all the way through, you would have noticed that his grandfather said it. And it probably wasn't intended as an insult.

Please read the entire post, doing this just makes you sound ignorant.

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PostSubject: Sorry   Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:26 am

Sorry, Terwynd. I misunderstood your post. Please forgive me. face plam


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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:50 am

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Sorry, Terwynd. I misunderstood your post. Please forgive me.

Uhhhh.... That's drew, do you even read the usernames?

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PostSubject: TERWYND!!   Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:06 am

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Mitchz95 wrote:
Sorry, Terwynd. I misunderstood your post. Please forgive me.

Uhhhh.... That's drew, do you even read the usernames?
I was responding to Terwynd's post, in which he indirectly quoted Drew.

And yes, I do read the usernames. How else would I have known to say "Terwynd"?
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:00 am

Apology accepted, Mitch. happy.

Now back on topic...

Basically, The real reason that China is overtaking the US is its army size and current funding. If Obama can cut the budget there, all will be fine, at least for now.

New topic I thought up about the world's crisis's: Violent Riots in London. Any thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: Global Conditions    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:31 am

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Apology accepted, Mitch. happy.

Now back on topic...

Basically, The real reason that China is overtaking the US is its army size and current funding. If Obama can cut the budget there, all will be fine, at least for now.



China is becoming the inventor and supplier. We have lost that wright or are at least losing it. Most of our childhood toys are from there its only the beginning.

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